then you have abu abbas who is the nominal leader, i call him, of the palestinian authority, who hasn't wanted to sit down with the israelis, say let's sit down at any table, no conditions. let's not leave the room until we have peace. he's afraid if he entered into a peace treaty with israel, that his own people would execute him. they don't want a peace. what they want is a single state where the jews will be submerged and the arabs will impose sharia or whatever else their islamic religion requires. >> but when you look at the obvious oppression of nearly 2 million palestinians on the gaza strip in particular, it's a terribly depressing -- >> sure. >> helpless situation. >> and they could change it. they could change it. >> can only they change it or do the israelis have to also give a little bit? >> of course. >> everything about compromise? >> of course the israelis have to give, and they will. and omar, who was the prime minister, said he was within a hair's breath of dealing with abu abbas, but it's the fear that the palestinian leadership has that if they enter into a treaty wit